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I have just had an utterly disgusting interaction with GM Warranty service staff that shames me as a former GM employee and loyal customer. More on that after it gets finally resolved

Here is a cut and paste of this weeks Autoextremist .com that says it all for what GM needs to do to survive:


I’m talking about the GM that exists today – that other GM – the one that exists in the hearts and minds of too many in the media and too many consumers around the country. The one that is now flat broke and busted, a listless hulk smoldering by the side of the road.

That GM, Fritz.

The GM I’m speaking about has an image that is in tatters. Despite a glittering historical legacy that will never be duplicated again, GM, the once-majestic American symbol of corporate success that in its glory days was a source of intense pride to its employees and dealers - even eliciting grudging respect from its most bitter of rivals - has been relegated to a punch line, and is now staring at an ignominious future that has the UAW, of all things, owning 17 percent of the company and the U.S. Treasury owning over 60 percent of the rest.

You’ve said in interview after interview that the future of GM rests with its customers, the markets it competes in, and of course, its products, Fritz. That’s all very noble, well and good and dead accurate too, I might add. But you’re forgetting one very key ingredient in all of this, and that is the people, whether we’re talking about longtime GM customers, employees, suppliers, investors, pensioners, dealers or just plain “GM families” - as quaint as that hoary notion sounds in this day and age - who now feel betrayed by the company and who now believe that the GM that was once there for them is no longer interested in them.

That GM, Fritz.

Before GM can please Washington, quell the media hordes (at least somewhat), appease the union, mollify suppliers and dealers, launch an impressive array of new vehicles, conquest import-oriented consumers, grow its market share, and eventually get the ship righted and sailing in a sunny direction again, it must address the fact that it has turned off thousands of people who were once fiercely loyal to the company and its brands.

If you think the cacophony generated by disgruntled dealers, suppliers and pissed-off customers is going away anytime soon, you’re sadly mistaken. As a matter of fact it’s growing with each passing day. Those customers who used to be so willing to buy into whatever GM was selling out of feelings of loyalty? Gone. Those dealers and suppliers who would suck it up and take one for the team because it was just “understood” that is was their role in the Big Picture? Forget it. They’re so done with GM right now it would make your head spin.

Why? Well, to your former customers the idea that this once-proud company is now unable to control its own destiny because it failed to see that the light at the end of the tunnel was really a giant freight train of Not Good is beyond appalling. It’s disgusting to them, as a matter of fact, and it doesn’t matter how excellent your products are now or how good the ones coming are, either. “Their” company let them down, big-time, and they’re never going to forget it.

And it only gets worse for people who relied on GM for their financial futures. They’re simply outraged. But outrage doesn’t even begin to describe the out-and-out loathing of anything and everything to do with GM that’s going on with your dealers and suppliers right now.

Whatever is in your mind about the state of the company and its upward trajectory coming out of bankruptcy, Fritz, the reality is that the core base of customers that provided a rock-solid foundation for the company for all of these years has now crumbled.

The hard-core loyalists who remain are now only somewhat interested, which isn’t a good sign to say the least. And the rest? The people who invested their savings in the company, and the ones who invested years of toil and sweat - basically their entire livelihoods - on the company’s behalf are so gone at this point they can’t even muster the energy to care anymore.

As you told Bill Vlasic in today’s New York Times, you have two rules for both yourself and other G.M. “lifers” if you are to succeed in reviving the company as a smaller, smarter competitor:

“I have to listen,” you said. “Listening to others is a key skill. Secondly, I never declare victory too soon. Get the job done first before you talk about it.”

Listening is good, Fritz, that’s always an excellent place to start. And you better listen to your core customers first, because before you get one import-oriented consumer to consider an American car again - specifically a GM car - you’ll need advocates out there in the real world who are True Believers in what GM has to offer and who will speak on the company’s behalf. And right now you have just the opposite, and the volume is about to hit “11.”

I’ve often said over the years that GM needed to stop “preaching to the choir” when it came to marketing. In other words, the company needed to reduce spending marketing dollars on their loyalist customers in favor of increasing spending aimed at attracting the attention of consumers who normally wouldn’t even give GM a first glance. But that marketing strategy simply isn’t relevant in this current situation.

Now, before it can accomplish anything else, GM has the unenviable task of going back and attempting to salvage the core customers it once had, which in this toxic environment will prove to be exceedingly difficult.

It won’t be easy for people to forget that GM, I can assure you.

Suffice to say, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about declaring victory too soon in this case, Fritz.

Thanks for, uh... listening.
 

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I've been a loyal GM guy ever since my first vehicle (1980 Chevy Citation). And coming from a GM town and having many relatives who work or worked for GM, I hope and pray for a speedy come back on its way to the top of the mountain...agian!:woohoo:
 

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"...it must address the fact that it has turned off thousands of people who were once fiercely loyal to the company and its brands..."

Thousands? More like millions.

"...who now believe that the GM that was once there for them is no longer interested in them..."

Anyone who thought GM was interested in them earlier was fooling themselves. GM, like most other large businesses, has always been focused on internal politics and, secondary to those, profits. The problem is that it failed to see that the best way to sustain those profits was to act as if it put people's needs first.
 

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I'm from a "GM family", as a lot of my family works (or worked) for parts of GM (that are now sold off)...

I won't buy another new GM (or Dodge) until the .gov and the union are not owners. period.

I'll buy used ones, if they're what I like, but not a new GM (or Dodge)...

Mike
 

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:hopelessI'm sure he has a life, however his like so many others may well be turned upside down because of this GM stuff! I don't think a true friend or associate would tell him to 'get a life' an adversary or enemy maybe:m2:
 

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Do you do anything besides gripe about GM ? Get a life.
is it just me or does JJ remind you of a a pus filled zit....comes out of nowhere, erupts to the surface and wont go away until you squeeze that lil pus filled head until it pops??!!:dielaugh:
 

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Actually I agree with Bill but I also agree a bit, not a whole lot, but some with JJ..

It's sad what is happening with GM.. and our new socialistic administration .. Obama motors and all that; but it really doesn't do any good, in my opinion, to complain about it. Our government, long ago, stopped listening to us, the public, and now since GM is owned by the government, I doubt even Fritz will listen to us anymore, either.

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