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1. nitrous belongs on the track...im against it...its steriods for cars :no:
2. a tune is only beneficial why would it not be safe? it will make a HUGE difference...go for it :thumbsup:
OP please read this thread i made, that should help you out
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=58674
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?t=58674
nitrous is best used on a built race motor and drivetrain. if you put it on a stock motor you are asking for problems :coffee
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you can use nitrous as long as you have enough fuel delivery but i would go with a tune
Is 50 shot good or should I go higher
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if it was me i would go with a tune
I've sorta just been "browsing" this site for the past few weeks with no need to yet post. But this one I just can't leave alone...
It sounds like most of you know nothing about nitrous or how it works and you're consequently giving horrible and false information to the OP.
You can run nitrous--wet or dry--on a STOCK motor all day long. The only thing you would need is colder plugs. It's not a "track-only" type thing and it's actually SAFER than a turbo or supercharger.
I ran nitrous for three years on my Sunfire, stock motor, and had no problems at all. Nitrous burnouts, highway passes and anywhere between 40 and 60 h.p. jets; MANY bottles were emptied. When I tore the motor down to be built, pistons and valvetrain were clean as a whistle. The owner of our shop ran a 150-shot on his stock 3100 1996 Grand Prix until he decided to build the motor for more. Internals were mint and no damage was noticed.
aK_47: If you really want to know how nitrous works, hit me up or check out the NOS website's FAQ section. It's a plethora of knowledge.
It sounds like most of you know nothing about nitrous or how it works and you're consequently giving horrible and false information to the OP.
You can run nitrous--wet or dry--on a STOCK motor all day long. The only thing you would need is colder plugs. It's not a "track-only" type thing and it's actually SAFER than a turbo or supercharger.
I ran nitrous for three years on my Sunfire, stock motor, and had no problems at all. Nitrous burnouts, highway passes and anywhere between 40 and 60 h.p. jets; MANY bottles were emptied. When I tore the motor down to be built, pistons and valvetrain were clean as a whistle. The owner of our shop ran a 150-shot on his stock 3100 1996 Grand Prix until he decided to build the motor for more. Internals were mint and no damage was noticed.
aK_47: If you really want to know how nitrous works, hit me up or check out the NOS website's FAQ section. It's a plethora of knowledge.
i myself ran a 150 shot on my beretta with the 3.1. the car loved it and there is nothing wrong with a 50 shot. obviously, wet system is better due to adding fuel with the nitrous but a 50 even a 100 dry wont hurt anything
Ok I admit I do not know a whole lot about nitrousing a vehicle since I have never done it. Now, since you have stated that we do not know about nitrousing our vehicles and both of you list having the I6 engine as I do....are your trailblazers Nitroused and if so how are they running. I have thought about nitrous and now you have started a thread so can ya give more details on which brand works best.... what shot would work....and of course I know the price reaches upwards of $500.00.
by the sound of it i dont think anyone on the entire first page has a ****in clue about any of this, so dont listen to them at all. You can safely do a 150shot on this motor, and i wouldnt be very afraid of a 200 if you had a fuel system for the spray with some c16 in it. Just make sure you get a good digital WOT switch to wire into the electronic TB so it only activates at true WOT. I have seen too many people use manual switches and on these the chance of it going into reduced power mode is too great. Ive sprayed a 125 on mine many times, I took it off since i was offered good $$ for it, but next year im looking at a set of big solenoids and going with a 200 all the time. I would recommend if your gonna go big a seperate fuel system with c16 or E85, but for a 50-75 shot just spray it and dont worry.
Wow, 150 shot w/ possible 200 shot on stock motor? You obviously have no clue.
Id feel confident in running up to a 75 shot WET! Id probably not run a 50 shot dry, need that wet too just to be safe.
Can you do it on a stock motor w/out it blowing up? Definately, but do it RIGHT. Go with a WET kit, and make sure you tune it properly.
The cost though for the benefit of it on a stock motor? Id rather see a lifted TB or a dropped TB w/ some nice wheels over the every great once in awhile boost in power.
Id feel confident in running up to a 75 shot WET! Id probably not run a 50 shot dry, need that wet too just to be safe.
Can you do it on a stock motor w/out it blowing up? Definately, but do it RIGHT. Go with a WET kit, and make sure you tune it properly.
The cost though for the benefit of it on a stock motor? Id rather see a lifted TB or a dropped TB w/ some nice wheels over the every great once in awhile boost in power.
I have sprayed a 150 once on this motor which now has 103k on it, but 3-4 bottles of 125. I would go higher but like i said i like to have a seperate fuel system (the 150 was working the stock pump pretty hard) to go big and use E85 or race gas. No problems, i dont recall my timing map but i did pull around 3* from the stock settings and had a splash of 105 in the tank just in case. Thing hauled ass let me tell you, thats a solid 450hp. I ran 14 bottles through my 1st LS1 at 175-200, and 8 bottles through it at 225, 4 shots of 250 on a stock motor with just a cam and springs, full bolt ons.. Ive had 3 vehicles 4-500whp, and 3 that were well over 600whp, so this isnt new for me. From turbo 4-bangers, turbo v6s, nitrous v6, nitrous v8s, turbo v8 and a supercharged V8. Nitrous LOVES alot of compression, and as long as you drop some timing and keep the lines full of decent fuel, it is safe as hell. There is nothing special about this motor, the intake has pretty good distribution, i would go with a direct port setup if you were to get over 150, but i think youll have big trans problems over that anyway, especially if you dont have 4.10 gears
Gary
sorry i forgot this site doesnt allow that stuff, i get pretty upset when you make a statement and its followed up with " your an idiot even though ive never done it but i still say so"
Ive sprayed the I6, not many people have and its important to get the correct info out and not all the nonsense rumors that are going on in this thread. Nitrous is safe, use the proper equipment, follow that with lots of good fuel and keep your tune spot on. Like i said ive done a 150 on this. Ive done ALOT of 100-125s, never had an issue. Ive read ALL the plugs after a pull to check the distribution on this plenum, its pretty good for small stuff, but at the 150 i noticed the outer 2 holes were a bit lean. If i dont get another high hp toy im probably gonna hit this motor pretty hard next year (ill have a spare) but thats in the air yet, might just pick up another TV 2wd and lighten it up.
One other thing, i figured over 100 not to hit it until around 4200 (where i brought the exhaust cam in to full advance) or it caused some tuning issues when it brought the cam on. Never tried it after i pulled the cam in full at 3600 so thats an unknown as of now.
Gary
Ive sprayed the I6, not many people have and its important to get the correct info out and not all the nonsense rumors that are going on in this thread. Nitrous is safe, use the proper equipment, follow that with lots of good fuel and keep your tune spot on. Like i said ive done a 150 on this. Ive done ALOT of 100-125s, never had an issue. Ive read ALL the plugs after a pull to check the distribution on this plenum, its pretty good for small stuff, but at the 150 i noticed the outer 2 holes were a bit lean. If i dont get another high hp toy im probably gonna hit this motor pretty hard next year (ill have a spare) but thats in the air yet, might just pick up another TV 2wd and lighten it up.
One other thing, i figured over 100 not to hit it until around 4200 (where i brought the exhaust cam in to full advance) or it caused some tuning issues when it brought the cam on. Never tried it after i pulled the cam in full at 3600 so thats an unknown as of now.
Gary
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