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Hey All,
I am in the middle of the motor mount job on a 2005 TB 4.2L 4x4. The 4x4 gizmos seriously restrict the drivers side motor mount. I have the passengers side in, and I am wondering if now that it is 3/4" higher on the passengers side with the new mount, if that is not what is stopping the drivers side from lifting high enough. I am also wondering if I should put the old one back in temporarily to lower that side and lift the drivers side?
Another thought is loosening/removing the engine motor mount bracket (The top one with 4 bolts to give myself the small extra clearance needed?
Thanks,
Tom
 

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So hey guys,
I do have GM mounts. I removed fan, throttle body, air intake contraption, MAP and loosened the PCM. I got the bolts off the top and bottom of the mounts. .I jacked the motor with a block of wood. I have it all the way up with the only constriction being the shroud covering the top of the engine butting against the top of the engine bay. I got the passenger side out pretty easy because it was compressed. I then had to grind 3/8 off both sides of the new one to get the passenger side in.
Now I am trying all kinds of things to get the driver side out with the 4WD stuff in the way. I have slithered my hands in a couple ways and can move it around, I can pop the bottom bolt out of the bracket, but the angle is such that I can not pull it out with it being sandwiched between the brackets.
I am going out today to remove the passenger side and put the old compressed mount back in so that hopefully that 3/4 of an inch of compression on the passenger side will allow the driver side to lift more. I read of a guy on this forum that actually placed the engine jack more on the drivers side of the oil pan to force the engine to torque more towards the passenger side when it lifted.
I subscribe to ALLDATA DIY which is supposed to be the GM manual for the specific vehicle, and it throws a half a line blurb about removing the drivers side strut, and then removing the 3 bolts behind the strut that hold up the frame (bottom) motor mount bracket, I assume this is to get you more space to move the mount, Has anyone done that?
 

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Hey Metal Mike. They were. I actually looked them over quite a few times! I love the one on the bottom by TRQ who just says "The drivers side is a little more difficult" then he reaches in and pulls it out!
 

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OK. The mounts are in. LOL. What an adventure! So the key for me on the 4X4 4.2L was all the tips above.......BUT......what worked for me was to break free the old mounts first, and leave the passenger side in and do the drivers side first!
My mistake was going for the easy one on the passenger side first, and putting in the new GM passenger mount. It really should NOT make a difference, but it did for me. The height of that new mount on the passenger side simply would not allow me to torque the engine high enough on the drivers side!
I started this morning removing the new taller passenger mount and actually cutting a 4x4 just smaller than the old compressed mount, and laying it in between the passenger side mount brackets where the mount should go.. This was to make sure I could jack the drivers side, and allow the passenger side to fall to a lower height......and not break any metal.
I then moved my jack to as far as it would go on the drivers side of the oil pan and lifted, and sure enough, the engine torqued up on the drivers side and down on the passengers side, and the drivers side mount popped right out.
I had already ground down the new mount for the passenger side, (I put the nuts on and ground the top nipple off and about 3/8 off the bottom) and I decided to try that one, and it slipped right in! Don't mess with success!
I then lowered the jack and tightened the drivers side mount nuts, as I expected that now that mount would act to hold down the drivers side for when I moved the jack to as far as I could to the passengers side of the oil pan and jacked it.
Sigh. When I moved the jack and lifted, the engine did lift pretty well........but the NEW (not shortened) mount would not slip in! Its like the new mount on the drivers side was so tall, it was just enough to allow the passenger side to lift!
So I am not proud by this point to tell you that I whipped out the cutting wheel, ground off the nipple on top, and 3/8 of the bottom (again with the nuts on) and slipped that motor mount right in and tightened it up. I used blue thread lock on both sides.
The main thing was watching all the videos you could and THIS forum. I got the trick about moving the jack from side to side and a little grinding from one of the other motor mound threads, as well as the tip about doing the drivers side first with the old compressed mount still in the passengers side.
Another thing for me was removing both front wheels, and putting the car on jackstands just a little higher than the car would sit with the wheels on. I was able to get to the bottom and top nuts with my Frankenstein compellation of universal joints and wobble extensions, and even use an impact tool to break them loose at that height. I used a small step ladder to reach in on the top. The slight jacking and wheels out of the way also allowed me to find every nook and cranny I could reach into from underneath to work on this situation.
 

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Hey Dsport,
Yes. Honestly, with the wheels out of the way, and jackstands back behind my work, I was in the wheel wells and under the rotors A LOT during this adventure. I am ashamed to admit I forgot to disconnect the battery after all was said and done.
 

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Damn! I am GLAD I forgot the battery! Anyhoo, an update on the mounts.......smoooooth. I bought this TB about a month ago, and I noticed a little vibration, but I thought it was probably the hubs. For some reason, I had a brand new set of front hubs from my 4WD Envoy, so I bought the car thinking I would simply put those on and solve the problem. When I took the wheels off to do the job, there was no indication the hubs were bad, so after reading these forums, I realized changing the mounts was a good idea. I had no real positive proof it was the mounts, other than rocking the motor and watching the mounts, and that was inconclusive to me, so I was like......how hard can this be? After all is said and done I am real glad they are in, and the vibration is gone! I did the catalytic converter at the same time but that is my next thread!
 
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