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I know a lot of us that have or TV set up for off roading have been wanting to add fender flares. Only problem being that there is not a manufacturer that makes fender flares for our truck. So, I am asking all members to please click on the following link and fill it out. It is a link to BushWacker's R&D department. They base there products off demand like most companies do. So hopefully if we get enough members to put in there :m2: we can get them to actually make a set for our truck. If you want to see all their styles you can go to www.bushwacker.com however for the ones that are into off roading you will most likely want either the Extend-A-Fender or the Pocket Style. I personally like the pocket style better myself and that is what I registered under. I have a feeling that no matter what style you select they will still do some research about making a product for our vehicle. Thanks in advance for everybody's help with this endeavor!!! :thx

http://www.bushwacker.com/search_fender.asp#
(When you click on the link it will open in a new window. At the bottom of the field there is a link that says "Can't find your vehicle using the search tool above? LET US KNOW HERE! Click on the let us know here and put in your info.)
 

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There was a previous post for this some time ago. I filled out the suggestion then and did so again today. Thanks!

If all else fails, I like what Roadie did with Flexi-Flares... Alek also has flares on his rig, can't recall which brand, think it may be Street Scene?
 

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Yeah, I have read Roadie's thread about the flexi flares, and I may go that route if we cant get Bush Wacker to get with the program and start accepting our platform as a offroad vehicle! :hissy:

Edit: I found the previous post for this thread, and you are right it is the same exact thing. I have also emailed them in ref to this project. We will see if I can get a response. :rolleyes:
 

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i wrote a long and convincing email to them right now, hopefully if we can have enough members email them they will go for it!
 

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The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole thing is that they make fender flares for the tahoe! :hissy: Last time I checked there are not that many tahoes on the trails! :no:
 

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The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole thing is that they make fender flares for the tahoe! :hissy: Last time I checked there are not that many tahoes on the trails! :no:
yea but there are more people willing to put them on a mall crawler for there tahoes then they see of us putting them on our trucks...
 

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What about this guy:... :drool

He actually lives only 20 minutes away from me. I'm trying to plan an outing with him... schedules are kinda conflicting.



Remember, there are not too many TrailBlazers out there either... and fender flares are not necessarily an off-road item. They're generally more bling than function.
 

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Last time I checked there are not that many tahoes on the trails! :no:
Don't get the silly idea that Tahoe owners are buying bling like flares for the trails. :nono:

There are more of them though at the malls. Lifted and looking silly, but in larger numbers than us.

The bling-bling trailvoys just aren't doing flares, I guess.

 

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I wouldn't have got my ATS fender flares except that the tires on white Trailblazer made my tires that stick out anyway, look much worse than on my blue one (optical illusion I guess).

That is why it was recommended to me to keep them unpainted. Also that any real offroad activity would scrape the paint off of them anyways.

I wrote to Bushwacker to see if they would send me any kind of drawings for their Tahoe pocket-style flares to see if they could be adapted, but got a stern NO.

I was thinking of ordering from somewhere with an iron-clad return policy but I guess I'm OK with what I have now.

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You guys are not going to believe this, but I just got a email back from Bush Wacker and they "SAY" they are interested in the idea. They asked me what platform specifically I was running and any other platforms that I knew of that where on the same body style, IE bravada, 9-7x, ascender, envoy, rainier. I sent them a reply and I am hoping to hear more from them. If it is ok with Alek, I may give them his email if they need technical specs. I would say Roadie, but I know he is VERY busy with axle issues right now. Alek, that ok???
 

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I just put in a suggestion in for them as well. I am interested in the cut-out and pocket style. I was looking at a friends Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, I was just eyeballing the the fenders and they arent too much different I dont think. A little modification and they might work.
 

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I filled out the suggestion too but i doubt they'll make them for the ext but hay atleast it puts the word out there for the rest of you.
 

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Sure, have them contact me but I would think they would ask for a vehicle in their area for a model.

This would be great and I would definitely be interested in the more offroad type like the pocket or cutout, but here are a couple of challenges I can see them encountering:

- whether to invest in Envoy flares - neither of the previous 2 companies did, only Trailblazer (plus there are 4 other "sisters" as well)

- with the discontinued platform, do they see a future in it? (Maybe their business model requires only a few sales to get over the hump - like Purple Cranium and the diff guards)

- the cutout style may be a problem because of how our rear doors (SWB) are integrated into the wheel well design - you can't really cut anything there, you may be able to drill though

In any case, hopefully they may proceed with at least the level they have for the Tahoe.

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(Maybe their business model requires only a few sales to get over the hump - like Purple Cranium and the diff guards)
I highly doubt that. Large plastic pieces have huge mold machining costs. Tool steel is very expensive to machine, even in asia. Since our vehicles would require 6 molds (one for each peice), and I could see each mold costing at least 20k. Right there is an investment of almost $120k which doesn't include overhead and R&D.

Now, my experience is with high precision plastic parts, so I estimated low for the fender flares. But I couldn't see them being less than that as far as mold investment.
 

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While I agree with Alek and James, the impression I got from the email and also what I hinted at when I first emailed them was the adaption of a current model. I doubt very seriously they are going to do the R&D as well as the mold production for just our platform. Not to mention the EXT or the XL versions. But we can at least all dream! :sleepy: Although I think we all know the kilely hood of anything coming out of this. :(
 

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all they need is the measurements and radius's of our wheel wells and they can look thought there sheets and see if there is already a mold that fits or is a close fit to our models.. i tried to do this before but it was a no go... no one had any measurements or specs on any fender flares for the blazer, tahoe, etc...
 

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I have a friend that is starting a home business making custom fender flares out of a flexible plastic material. They are close to 1/4" thick and bend (instead of break) when you hit something with them (a tree, for instance).

He has already figured out a nice looking set for the Jeep XJ and he may want to work with the TrailVoy crowd as well if there is some interest. It takes a bit of time to work up a good mold, but once he has that, he can vacuum form any number of flares from that mold.

You can contact Doug Napier via UCORA here:

http://www.ucora.org/forum_ucora3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4259&p=28033#p28033
 

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I have a friend that is starting a home business making custom fender flares out of a flexible plastic material. They are close to 1/4" thick and bend (instead of break) when you hit something with them (a tree, for instance).

He has already figured out a nice looking set for the Jeep XJ and he may want to work with the TrailVoy crowd as well if there is some interest. It takes a bit of time to work up a good mold, but once he has that, he can vacuum form any number of flares from that mold.

You can contact Doug Napier via UCORA here:

http://www.ucora.org/forum_ucora3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4259&p=28033#p28033
The lines of that cherokee are very similar to ours!
 

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I highly doubt that. Large plastic pieces have huge mold machining costs. Tool steel is very expensive to machine, even in asia. Since our vehicles would require 6 molds (one for each peice), and I could see each mold costing at least 20k. Right there is an investment of almost $120k which doesn't include overhead and R&D.

Now, my experience is with high precision plastic parts, so I estimated low for the fender flares. But I couldn't see them being less than that as far as mold investment.
it really depends on the system that they use, if it was a 120K investment, they wouldn't be in business becuase there are very few platforms that ran long engouh and have high enough numbers with that many offroaders that are going to buy their product. i mean silverados yes, jeeps yes, some rams yes superdutys yes... other than that... they'd never make money... i bet their manufactering process is much much simpler than that. i mean they are doing relatively low number manufactering and must have very simple ways of processing.
 

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I found a fiberglass place in Orange County that would have made bolt-on replacement flared fender for $500 a pair. No mold charge for the first set. Hand laid up. Just give them a pair of metal fenders, and tell them how much larger and wider an opening you wanted.

http://www.glassworksunlimited.com/

Long term mod.

For instance - Tacoma on sale for $355 a pair. 4" flare. 3" rise in the opening:

 
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