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Going down for a bit. Will be busy with various maintenance, cleaning and computer upgrades so I may be a bit busy this weekend. I hope Win7 has all the drivers I need .... Then the installation of all my programs and stuff afterward:duh: I may have to log on with my laptop while this is all happening because, um ..... my wife, yes that's it, my wife likes me to stay updated on the site happenings :D
 

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I feel for ya, brother!




Oh, no wait a minute ...

... I don't. I have a Mac.:):):)

I run both ways of course. (Computers, I mean ... Get your head out of the gutter ...) But I also love my Mac and only tolerate Windows.

When I needed a new Windows laptop for a piece of software, I did a LOT of shopping around. Most internet forums I visited advised me to get my new laptop home, immediately erase the entire hard drive, reinstall Windows, and get rid of all the 'free trials' and trial anti-virus programs that come on these things. (I honestly think Norton anti-virus makers WRITE viruses just to keep themselves in business. Many people report their computers slow to a CRAWL with this on them.)

When I bought my Trailblazer, I ran into a similar situation. To get it to run properly, at a tiny percentage of what the manufacturer had wanted the performance to be, I had to take my brand-new truck home, strip out the engine, rebuild it and put it back in ...




... NOT!

I just shake my head at why anyone would want all the hassle of Windows. I finally came to my senses, bought another Mac laptop and simply installed Windows in Bootcamp.

This is why, ironically enough, that Macs run Windows better than Windows runs Windows.

Hehehe.
:):):)
 

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Hey Bill the only advice I could give you, would be to make sure that all of your hardware has driver support for Win7. Go to the manufacture web sites and check.

I was going to do a Win7 upgrade over the holidays, but I decided against it when I found out that my TV tuner card has no Win7 driver support. I watch a lot of TV through my computer, so the justification for the upgrade wasn't worth it.

Just my :m2:
 

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...... I have a Mac.:):):) But I also love my Mac and only tolerate Windows.
I just shake my head at why anyone would want all the hassle of Windows. I finally came to my senses, bought another Mac laptop and simply installed Windows in Bootcamp.

This is why, ironically enough, that Macs run Windows better than Windows runs Windows.

Hehehe.
:):):)
:iagree:100%. Once you go Mac, you never go back. I never could figure out why you had to go to Start, to shut down......what software genius at Microsoft thought of THAT??? :weird:

Still have my 2002 eMac 800mhz that runs as well as my kids IBM at 2.1 mhz WITH LESS MEMORY! :thumbsup:
 

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I never could figure out why you had to go to Start, to shut down......what software genius at Microsoft thought of THAT??? :weird:
Expert users NEVER use the Start button to shut down - they use ALT+F4 to close out programs and to launch the Logoff/Shut Down/Restart/Stand By dropdown dialog ;)
 

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Well it is running great so far. 1.75 tb of HD space and 8 gig of ram on this Xeon Quad core. 5 large fans with cool blue LEDs and a massive heat pipe to keep it cool. EVGA 9800 GTX video card works well still and we are back to some serious gaming :D
 

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Well it is running great so far. 1.75 tb of HD space and 8 gig of ram on this Xeon Quad core. 5 large fans with cool blue LEDs and a massive heat pipe to keep it cool. EVGA 9800 GTX video card works well still and we are back to some serious gaming :D
Haha i have been running that stuff for almost 2 years now(-the windows 7) and it still can take everything with out flinching(and 16gb ram):cool:
 

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I just shake my head at why anyone would want all the hassle of Windows. I finally came to my senses, bought another Mac laptop and simply installed Windows in Bootcamp.

This is why, ironically enough, that Macs run Windows better than Windows runs Windows.

Hehehe.
:):):)
Let me tell ya, I bought a Mac Mini when they first came out and I wanted to like it, but I couldn't. I didn't like the dock, I didn't like the way the file system put everything, I didn't like I couldn't run Safari maximized and still get to the dock, I couldn't play GTA, etc. I just really prefer Windows, yes sometimes it freaks out, but most of the time I have no problems (even with Vista). My laptop is still running the original install of Vista HP from October of 07 with no slow downs or anything and my desktop is running Vista Ultimate for over a year also with no problems. I would like Windows 7, but I don't want to spend the money yet! I want to see about maybe building or buying a computer with newer hardware first (even though there's really nothing wrong with what I have Core 2 Duo 6400, 2gb RAM, ASUS EAH4850).
 

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I like to Dual boot so I will run a partition with Linux. I like Linux but the gaming aspect is best suited to a Windows environment.

I have had this old dog for a over a year but the Win7 is the big change for me. Something got corrupted in the Vista 64 bit I was running and it slowed down after an update :duh::bonk::hissy: So many problems with Vista :crazy:

I had 180 gb of pictures to transfer and now that I'm shooting in RAW the files are just over 15 mb per pic. (Anyone use Adobe Light Room? I am loving it!)

So I had to make the change and add a Tera bite of storage at the same time :D
 

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Bills seen my laptop a few times now, its a year old and I got a steal of a deal on it. Just a Core 2 Duo 2ghz, 4gb ram, 320gb hdd, nvidia 9600gt 512mb (not shabby for a laptop), blu-ray player. Have an external 20" monitor and 1.5tb external hdd for backup/storage. For a while I had it triple booting Vista/W7/Ubuntu, deleted Ubuntu because I filled my 500gb external hdd, now that I have the 1.5tb Ill reinstall Ubuntu and maybe look into another flavor or 2 of Linux. Plus I have about 5 types of Linux/old versions of Windows running as Virtual Machines.

Not a powerhouse but runs all my programs (not much of a PC gamer anymore) very well, had Vista Home Prem as base OS but Ive been running W7 Ult x64 for over a year now (yes, you read that right). Need to get a copy of of RTM OS, beta and RC have been awesome so far.

People who bash Windows and love their Macs, good for you. What you dont realize is Microsoft has to write their OS to run on thousands of different hardware combintions while Apple has to do a fraction (maybe 100 for laptop/desktop and all the processor/video card combinations that matter). Big difference when you start to think about it.

I hate buying a PC, much prefer building them so I can start with just the OS and install the drivers I need. No bloatware, crappy big business anti-viruses (Norton and McAfee both suck), etc. Use AVG Free Anti-Virus, Ad-Aware, PeerBlock, and the only program Ive bought for system maintenance is TuneUp Utilities. Great program, been using it since mid-08.

To remove the preinstalled crap on your Windows system, use PC Decrapifier to remove it all easily. Easiest thing to do is run it as soon as you boot your new PC.

Hopefully this summer Ill be able to afford a desktop again, not sure if Ill go AMD or Intel, ATI or nVidia...

For anyone thinking of getting Windows 7, do it. I actually liked Vista a lot, I beat the crap out of that OS on my old laptop for over a year going in and modifying registry keys, playing with different settings in policies, etc and it only bsod'ed on me maybe 3 times (all were due to me fu<king something up in the registry and I ran System Restore, voila). But W7 is a lot more productive for me, love Aero Snap, Aero Peek, and the new taskbar plus Mobility settings. Ive used Vista maybe a combined total of 2 months in the total time Ive had my current laptop (bought 12/28/08) as I installed W7 beta the first week of 09 and then the RC when it came out. As for stability its maybe a little better, but it uses about 600mb less ram out of the box than Vista and opens applications a little quicker than Vista.
 

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I've used a program called "Advanced System Care" to tune up my PCs running XP and Win7. It's free but they also sell it for a few extra features for a reasonable price. It worked to fix up my XP PC quite nicely whch was running slowly.
I'm not thrilled with Win 7 - It doesn't run some older Windows software which is a PITA and I was used to where things were in XP and now I have to find them again. I went out and bought an older laptop with XP just to have it to run some programming software for a lighting system which isn't going to be upgraded to run on Win 7. Progress I guess.
 

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My wife has some CAD embroidery software that was XP-only, and I just got her Win7 Pro that can run it in XP-emulation mode. Not free, but cheaper than a spare machine to keep running.
 

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I've heard that Win7 Pro has that mode but wasn't sure if all XP software would run on it. Thanks for the confirmation that your wife's software would. What a sneaky way to make people upgrade to Pro!
I bought the new laptop with Win 7 Home something or other and now I find out I have to make Microsoft even richer with an upgrade to the Pro version. Wouldn't backward compatibility be something that should be included. Also they deleted Outlook Express those barstewards.
GD Microsoft!
 

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I've heard that Win7 Pro has that mode but wasn't sure if all XP software would run on it. Thanks for the confirmation that your wife's software would. What a sneaky way to make people upgrade to Pro!
I bought the new laptop with Win 7 Home something or other and now I find out I have to make Microsoft even richer with an upgrade to the Pro version. Wouldn't backward compatibility be something that should be included. Also they deleted Outlook Express those barstewards.
GD Microsoft!
Win 7 Pro and Ultimate (cant remember if Enterprise has it but I think it doest) have Win XP Mode. Its Windows Virtual PC that lets you run a virtual machine of XP, much better way of doing it than the compatability mode inside the OS. If you dont shut the VM down and simply save its state, its really fast to open up. I did testing over the summer and with the VM hibernated, it opened Excel/Word in about 7-8 sec. Long time for a native app, but it also was restoring the VM's state on a Core 2 Duo 2.8ghz, 2gb ram, 5400rpm hdd (work machine).

Download Windows Live Essentials 2011, Microsoft removed movie maker, outlook express, and some other apps but made them available as a free add-on. Outlook express is now Live Mail.


Little update, since my last post Ive built my new desktop (Aug 2010) with an AMD 1055T 6-core, 8gb ram, 2 TB hdd, ATi Radeon HD 5850 1GB, bluray, Win 7 x64 Ultimate. Have 5 or 6 VMs right now, Window 7 testing ones, a few Linux/Ubuntu, and working on an OS X one now...
 
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